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Success chances

As far as I know, official rates for upgrading success have never been published. (for either regular or enriched elu/ori). Same comment holds for Weaponry Research vs upgrading. The enriched Ori/Elu rates don't even conform to what is commonly believed to be their rates. (ie: enriched rate = 1-(1-regular rate)^2 )

I hate to nitpick, but I'd like to see at least some source for this section.

--Biochemistness-76 11:46, 9 March 2008 (MDT)

F2P vs P2P

So the article mentions now that many F2P servers disable the safe limits. Since iWiki is for iRO, I think they need to be reworded to indicate that the Valk server disables them; the fact that other F2Ps disable them should be added as a sidenote. I'm not doing this myself becuase I don't know if this is true/applicable. Usually the word "many" is one to avoid in encyclopedic articles. --Steax 09:04, 1 October 2008 (MDT)

Success chances: iRO Valkyrie

Here's some documented attempts on upgrading using normal metals: [1]

  • Doddler
Clearly these rates aren't anything that I would call good, so I decided to do specific testing. I bought 20 knives (level 1 weapon) and a bunch of phracon and started upgrading. My results are as follows: 

+0 to +1: 16/20 (80%)
+1 to +2: 15/16 (94%)
+2 to +3: 12/15 (80%)
+3 to +4: 10/12 (83%)
+4 to +5: 7/10 (70%)
+5 to +6: 5/7 (71%)
+6 to +7: 1/5 (20%) 
  • hurt
Mantle [1] +3 failed going to +4
Mantle [1] +0 failed going to +1
Mantle [1] +0 failed going to +1
Coat [1] +0 failed going to +1
Silk Robe[1]+3 fail3d going to +4
Mantle [1] +1 failed going to +2
Adv Suit [1] +2 Kept it
Guard [1] +1 failed going to +2
Guard [1] +0 failed going to +1
Guard [1] +2 kept it
Damascus [1] +2 kept 
  • (Armor)
    • +0 to +1: 7/11 (64%)
    • +1 to +2: 5/7 (71%)
    • +2 to +3: 2/2 (not enough samples)
    • +3 to +4: 0/0 (not enough samples)
  • Max Period 20:01, 6 November 2008 (MST)
  • Amurru
So far I have tried 40 pikes [4] at the the morroc forger and heres a summary of my results. 

4 failed at 0-1
2 failed at 1-2
3 failed at 2-3
0 failed at 3-4
10 failed at 4-5
16 failed at 5-6
2 failed at 6-7
3 failed at 7-8 
  • Level 1 weapon
    • +0 to +1: 36/40 (90%)
    • +1 to +2: 34/36 (94%)
    • +2 to +3: 31/34 (91%)
    • +3 to +4: 31/31 (100%)
    • +4 to +5: 21/31 (68%)
    • +5 to +6: 5/21 (24%)
    • +6 to +7: 3/5 (60%)
    • +7 to +8: 0/3 (not enough samples)
  • Max Period 20:01, 6 November 2008 (MST)

If you can do some tries please contribute as much as you can! Max Period 21:46, 4 November 2008 (MST)

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