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Contradiction concerning using enriched ore to refine from +9 to +10

Enriched Hammer cannot be used to upgrade from +9 to +10 - this is to protect the player, because the success rate when upgrading from +9 to +10 is the same for normal and enriched ores. To upgrade from +9->10, use HD ore and Mighty Hammer.

If this is true, then why do the stated success rates for refining from +9 to +10 using normal ore and enriched ore differ? Richard (talk) 15:30, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

You can use Enriched ores on +9 gears to attempt making them +10 using the normal enriched NPC, but with the chance of breaking on refinement. It's only the Enriched Hammer event NPC they won't allow you to refine to +10 with. Toxn (talk) 15:56, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Success chances

As far as I know, official rates for upgrading success have never been published. (for either regular or enriched elu/ori). Same comment holds for Weaponry Research vs upgrading. The enriched Ori/Elu rates don't even conform to what is commonly believed to be their rates. (ie: enriched rate = 1-(1-regular rate)^2 )

I hate to nitpick, but I'd like to see at least some source for this section.

--Biochemistness-76 11:46, 9 March 2008 (MDT)

F2P vs P2P

So the article mentions now that many F2P servers disable the safe limits. Since iWiki is for iRO, I think they need to be reworded to indicate that the Valk server disables them; the fact that other F2Ps disable them should be added as a sidenote. I'm not doing this myself becuase I don't know if this is true/applicable. Usually the word "many" is one to avoid in encyclopedic articles. --Steax 09:04, 1 October 2008 (MDT)

Success chances: iRO Valkyrie

Here's some documented attempts on upgrading using normal metals: [1]

Level 1 Weapon - Phracon - +0 to +1
User Attempts Successes
Doddler 20 16
Amurru 40 36
Total 60 52
Level 1 Weapon - Phracon - +1 to +2
User Attempts Successes
Doddler 16 15
Amurru 36 34
Total 52 49


Level 1 Weapon - Phracon - +2 to +3
User Attempts Successes
Doddler 15 12
Amurru 34 31
Total 49 43
Level 1 Weapon - Phracon - +3 to +4
User Attempts Successes
Doddler 12 10
Amurru 31 31
Total 43 41
Level 1 Weapon - Phracon - +4 to +5
User Attempts Successes
Doddler 10 7
Amurru 31 21
Total 41 28
Level 1 Weapon - Phracon - +5 to +6
User Attempts Successes
Doddler 7 5
Amurru 21 5
Total 28 10
Level 1 Weapon - Phracon - +6 to +7
User Attempts Successes
Doddler 5 1
Amurru 5 3
Total 10 4


  • Doddler
Clearly these rates aren't anything that I would call good, so I decided to do specific testing. I bought 20 knives (level 1 weapon) and a bunch of phracon and started upgrading. My results are as follows: 

+0 to +1: 16/20 (80%)
+1 to +2: 15/16 (94%)
+2 to +3: 12/15 (80%)
+3 to +4: 10/12 (83%)
+4 to +5: 7/10 (70%)
+5 to +6: 5/7 (71%)
+6 to +7: 1/5 (20%) 
  • hurt
Mantle [1] +3 failed going to +4
Mantle [1] +0 failed going to +1
Mantle [1] +0 failed going to +1
Coat [1] +0 failed going to +1
Silk Robe[1]+3 fail3d going to +4
Mantle [1] +1 failed going to +2
Adv Suit [1] +2 Kept it
Guard [1] +1 failed going to +2
Guard [1] +0 failed going to +1
Guard [1] +2 kept it
Damascus [1] +2 kept 
  • (Armor)
    • +0 to +1: 7/11 (64%)
    • +1 to +2: 5/7 (71%)
    • +2 to +3: 2/2 (not enough samples)
    • +3 to +4: 0/0 (not enough samples)
  • Max Period 20:01, 6 November 2008 (MST)
  • Amurru
So far I have tried 40 pikes [4] at the the morroc forger and heres a summary of my results. 

4 failed at 0-1
2 failed at 1-2
3 failed at 2-3
0 failed at 3-4
10 failed at 4-5
16 failed at 5-6
2 failed at 6-7
3 failed at 7-8 
  • Level 1 weapon
    • +0 to +1: 36/40 (90%)
    • +1 to +2: 34/36 (94%)
    • +2 to +3: 31/34 (91%)
    • +3 to +4: 31/31 (100%)
    • +4 to +5: 21/31 (68%)
    • +5 to +6: 5/21 (24%)
    • +6 to +7: 3/5 (60%)
    • +7 to +8: 0/3 (not enough samples)
  • Max Period 20:01, 6 November 2008 (MST)
  • ShadowScar
I upgraded 50 stiletto [3], a level 2 weapon, at the Prontera forger.  I stopped at +8.
Here is the data:

6 failed from 0-1
9 failed from 1-2
9 failed from 2-3
9 failed from 3-4
6 failed from 4-5
7 failed from 5-6
2 failed from 6-7
2 failed from 7-8

Results: 1/50 to +8
  • Level 2 weapon
    • +0 to +1: 44/50 (88%)
    • +1 to +2: 35/44 (80%)
    • +2 to +3: 26/35 (74%)
    • +3 to +4: 17/26 (65%)
    • +4 to +5: 12/17 (70%)
    • +5 to +6: 05/12 (42%)
    • +6 to +7: 03/05 (60%)
    • +7 to +8: 01/03 (33%)
  • Result
    • +0 to +8: 01/50 (2%)

Max Period 17:17, 20 February 2009 (EST)

For a second time, I upgraded 50 stiletto [3], a level 2 weapon, at the Prontera forger.  I stopped at +8.
Here is the data:

1 failed from 0-1
5 failed from 1-2
6 failed from 2-3
13 failed from 3-4
9 failed from 4-5
7 failed from 5-6
4 failed from 6-7
4 failed from 7-8

Results: 1/50 to +8
  • Level 2 weapon
    • +0 to +1: 49/50 (98%)
    • +1 to +2: 44/49 (90%)
    • +2 to +3: 38/44 (86%)
    • +3 to +4: 25/38 (66%)
    • +4 to +5: 16/25 (64%)
    • +5 to +6: 09/16 (56%)
    • +6 to +7: 05/09 (56%)
    • +7 to +8: 01/05 (20%)
  • Result
    • +0 to +8: 01/50 (2%)

Max Period 14:54, 03 March 2009 (EST)

If you can do some tries please contribute as much as you can! Max Period 21:46, 4 November 2008 (MST)